Update: Our Christianity…

Posted: March 14, 2007 in bible, Biblical Topics, Christ, Christianity, homosexuality, persecution, Religion, sexuality, Spiritual Struggle

This mornings news featured Republican Senator John Warner’s condemnation of the remarks made by General Pace regarding homosexuals. For a brief refresher, here are General Pace’s comments:

“I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts…. I do not believe that the armed forces are well served by saying through our policies that it’s OK to be immoral in any way, not just with regards to homosexual acts, So from that standpoint, saying that gays should serve openly in the military to me says that we, by policy, would be condoning what I believe is immoral activity[.]” [1]

Senator Warner responded with the following comments:

“I strongly disagree with the chairman’s views that homosexuality is immoral.” [2]

So the context of the conversation begins broadly enough- it pertains to the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy of our military. Within this discussion, Gen. Pace mentions that he thinks homosexual sex (and adultery) are immoral activities.

Now, Senator Warner did not respond (at least on the record) to Gen. Pace’s comments by arguing that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is a bad policy regardless of whether or not homosexuality is immoral (a credible point). Instead Sen. Warner’s comments ignored the main issue (the DADT policy) and focused on the claim that homosexual acts are NOT immoral.

Now, this position does not appear to be an individual creation. It should come as no surprise that Sen. Warner claims to be an Episcopalian– a denomination that recently gave up the long standing (biblical) Christian doctrine that homosexuality is immoral, and now supports homosexual marriages.

How has the church served Sen. Warner if it has taught him that homosexual sex is not immoral? What other false doctrines has he heard seated in the pew at his local Episcopalian church?

Sen. Warner is an educated and wealthy man. Yet, even he has fallen for this kind of deception. This is why I so often stress that we must be well read in the Bible, our heads buried in the word DAILY. As part of this total transformation process I am currently undergoing, I set a goal of 30-45 minutes of bible study each day. I haven’t always lived up to that goal, but it has dramatically improved my walk for all the times I have.

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

But these are the kind of deceptions that creep into a church and rot it from the inside out. What would Christ say to such a church today? Most likely the same thing he said to the church of Pergamum almost two thousands years ago.

“Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality. Likewise you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.” Revelations 2:14-16.

I know it is easy to interpret scripture in a way that resolves the churches conflicts with the world. For the world can’t understand why any person should deny themselves such pleasure. Is it not the motto of the world, “If it feels good (and nobody gets hurt), then do it!”

But the problem isn’t simply a problem of how one lives their own life. For if such were the case we could simply live apart from the world, stemming off its corruption, and letting others indulge freely. But we are not called to ignore the world and let them pursue the path of their own destruction. We are commanded to shine our light (the gospel) so that world might see.

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.” Matthew 28:19-20.

Why did Christ say the world hated him (and it would hate us too)?

“The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that what it does is evil.” John 7:7.

“If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.” John 15:19.

Part of this gospel message that the world needs to hear is that its ways and desires are evil (no matter how natural they may seem).

“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23.

This message isn’t always accepted as it demands that we acknowledge both God and our sinful nature.

“This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.” John 3:19-20.

How can a sinner know that they require forgiveness if the church itself is complicit in denying any action is sin? Someone will not ask for mercy if they don’t think their actions are wrong- and why should they?

But homosexuality is only one aspect of a much larger problem. Sexual immorality plagues our church- and in many forms. We must look inside our church and ask:

Why have so many lifelong Christians been divorced multiple times? Why do so many young Christian teenagers think that oral sex doesn’t violate the prohibition against premarital sex? Why do so many pastors refuse to call unmarried and cohabiting couples on their conduct?

I am not arguing that these people should be kicked out of the church. For all of us, we struggle with sin our entire life. For some it is one particular sin, and for others it is several. But the important point is that we struggle, that we continually acknowledge our sinful actions and seek mercy. But if we don’t know what we do is wrong and our church leaders abdicate responsibility to inform us of our wrongful actions, how can we know that we require forgiveness and mercy?

Also read:

What the Bible says about Homosexuality.

The Bible on Homosexuality.

  1. Neil says:

    Good points. Homosexual behavior is clearly a sin, but if the church hadn’t gone along with world’s plan for divorce and sex out of wedlock then we wouldn’t be debating “gay marriage.”

  2. kclick says:

    Great post.

    I think you hit the nail on the head.


  3. timbob says:

    Greetings. It’s amazing that things which are so contradictory to scripture can become part of a churches doctrinal stand. Each time I hear this debate over the acceptance of homosexual behavior, I find myself puzzled over how this should even have to be debated. Without a doubt, there is a famine in the land for the hearing of the word of God. We have a church on every corner and ezch home has five or six bibles sitting in a closet or on a stand covered with dust. Truth is never popular with the many but it’s the only thing that will mnake men free as Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Very insightful post.
    Have a great day in Christ.


  4. Thanks Tim.

    This kind of thing originates in our society because some want to justify their own actions (or the actions of their friends and loved ones), while other are simply afraid to say that such an action is immoral- regardless of how much easier it would make our lives.

  5. Fang says:

    Maybe Pastor Ted Haggard could join the military.

    When I was in the military. There were no openly gay male soldiers. There were openly gay female soldiers though? (They did look like males)

    I would not have been comfortable sharing a hole with a homosexual.

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  7. Ah…the unwarranted hubris of youth. I remember it well.

  8. The real problem I have with Gen. Pace’s statement was he was speaking from a policy standpoint, which may have valid reasons for disallowing active homosexuals from openly proclaiming their lifestyle. While standing as a representative of the Government and its policy his personal opinions were not the appropriate forum.

    If the armed forces wants to disallow homosexuals or any type of “morality” issue being a reason for inelgibility, they need to address the rampant adultery that may be present, and is if the Army is anything like it was from 1983 to 1987. They don’t for more than a few reasons, but perhaps one of them is the relevance that it has to a soldier completing his mission.

  9. frieda says:

    I found your blog on Kamangir.net and liked your comment about Iranian flipping out again over nothing!
    I will be back.

  10. cumby says:

    Our beliefs about homosexuality put us in the uncomfortable position of being seen as being without compassion and judgmental. So be it. I feel the same way about heterosexuals who fornicate and commit adultery. We are not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ.

    The teachings by Paul, and in the Old Testament, are the words of Christ. He dictated every word of the Bible because He is the Word. This includes all the teachings on homosexuality.

    The General may end up in a rehab program [mind indoctrination] for his “hate speech.” Either that or lose his job. Such it is in these days of political correctness.

  11. augustrose says:

    I don’t agree with making a sect/group of people the target or punchline of jokes or agree with making comments about those who have led in the Church world and fallen . Those people were intentional targets of the enemy so that he could scatter the body of Christ. The devil is malicious and merciless. Likewise, I’ve heard it said Christians are the only ones who kill their wounded. We need to show a little more compassion towards those who have been snared — not agreement — but prayerful compassion.

    That aside, I do agree that homosexuality has become a serious blur in the church world that needs to be seen for what it is. Sin.

    If a tax break is seriously the issue, surely the IRS could come up with something. But I don’t think it’s the real issue. The world is all-about-me and my-feelings. My opinions. My thoughts. My rights. My God, save us!

    We must remember as the world goes farther and farther from the truth, we still have to represent Love. This is the world our Lord died for, the world He pulled us out of, and the world that will only know how good He is if we are faithful and steadfast and speak His Word in love. It is still the goodness of God that leads men to repentance.

  12. isaacme says:

    Wow man you’ve been pumping out a lot of LONG posts lately. I hardly have time to read something that long, no way I could write it. And yet, as always, your long posts are thought filled. Homosexuality is something that is so accepted in our society that it’s hard to stand against it. What makes it harder is that some Christians have been a poor witness of Christ and have shown more hate than love for gays. Thus anyone who simply in the most polite yet corrective way speaks out about gay marriage is labeled a hate filled mongrel. But your right man, no matter how hard it is we must stick to the bible.

  13. John Kaiser says:

    “What makes it harder is that some Christians have been a poor witness of Christ and have shown more hate than love for gays.”

    That is a big problem. And something we need to handle within the church.

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